Halloween Tree

[Spookymufu]

my wife is on the hunt for a 4ft black tree to decorate next year for a Halloween tree.......

I bet if you give him a few bucks, you can get Gary Coleman to stand on your front porch with a star on his head.......

I bet I could too!

[witchy]

my wife is on the hunt for a 4ft black tree to decorate next year for a Halloween tree.......

I bet if you give him a few bucks, you can get Gary Coleman to stand on your front porch with a star on his head.......

I bed I could too!

I bet you mean, you really don't want to bed him!! EWWW!!!

[Spookymufu]

I dont know what you're talking about

[witchy]

Uh huh!!

[adrian]

i would say that i white tree would be pretty cool too! you could use black lights on it with eerie yellow and a little red lighting here and there kind of like a ghost tree!! i may try this

[Pumpkin_Man]

Okay, I realize that people do go in for Halloween trees, and they can even be cute, BUT, I am a TRADITIONALIST through and through. I think trees are Christmas TRADITION, and for Halloween I prefer to stick with jack o'lanterns, pumpkin & skull lights and other more TRADITIONAL Halloween decor. Besides that, putting up a tree is a hassle. In my case, I first have to find a good tree, because I allways go with the real thing, not a fake one. Then you have to put it in the stand and make sure it's as straight as can be. Then you have to put the lights on, and then you have to trim it with the various ornaments. After Christmas is over, the tree ornaments have to be removed and packed up, and the tree has to be hauled away or burned. More often then not, there will be a huge pile of pine neadles that have to be sweapt up, both where the tree stooe, and all through the house, on the front porch and along what ever "trail" you use to get the defunct Christmas tree to the burning spot or garbage pick-up.

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE putting up a Christmas tree, because it's a very beloved TRADITION, and I don't mind the clean-up in January, but I would not care to do it more then once a year. One of the main advantages of Halloween it that it't sn easy holiday to decorate for, and to take down after words. So to each his own, but I'll stick with TRADITIONAL Halloween decor for Halloween, and TRADITIONAL Christmas decor for Christmas.

Mike

[Spookymufu]

Mike, most people use a fake 4ft tree for Halloween so all those issues you stated arent really an issue for a Halloween tree, but I get your point.

[MacPhantom]

Alright wait....so, okay...wait wait....I'm confused....hold on.....

Okay.... So let me see if I've got this right.... Mike, you're IN FAVOR OF tradition...?

[Pumpkin_Man]

Yes, MacPhantom. I am nost assuredly in favor of TRADITION. That's why I emphasise it by typing it in all upper case letters. TRADITION is the life blood of civilization. The survival of the Jewish people for the past 500 years, evenin the face of Hitler and the Nazies, and the whole reason why Israel can exist among a billion people who are avoud to destroying that country, is all because they don't cop out on God or TRADITION.

I said it before in the above paragraph, and I'll say it again. TRADITION is the life blood of civilization. It gives us all stability, and marks our journey on the road of life.

Mike

[MacPhantom]

I do believe that the billions of dollars of aid and military technology given to Israel by the U.S. over the past half century had something to do with Israel's continued ability to exist... And keep in mind, the only reason the United States exists is because the original thirteen colonies decided to break with tradition and dissolve their alliance with the English monarchy...

But let me not drag this off topic, and please don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I like both tradition and change, and have a great respect for the keepers of tradition. Tradition helps us keep in touch with our history, and that's very important.

[Pumpkin_Man]

Like I said, I do tend to be a bit sentimental about my beloved TRADITIONS. I don't, however, hold it against anyone personaly for not observing it. The only time I get angry with non TRADITIONALISTS is when they impose their views on the way I live. As much as I love my brothers and sisters, they can be very hard to take with all of their junk philosophies and "new fangled" ideolgies that they will try to impose on everyone around them. Like you, I do n't want to take this discussion off topic. However, I do love my TRADITION, and I still believe that while help from the United States definately helped Israel, the Jewish people have benifitted greatly from keeping their ancient TRADITIONS. I also believe, that at one time, Christians bennifited greatly from the observation of TRADITION. My own family was not allways non TRADITIONALIST. At one time, we were unyeilding in our observance of TRADITION, especialy on religious holidays. Everything "went south" for us when we started abandoning our TRADITIONS and our Lord.

As for the United States's existance, I don't think abandoning TRADITION was the reason for it's existance. On the contrary, it's the establishment and observation of our national TRADITIONS that made the civilization we enjoy today possible. As for the American Revolution, that was brought about by many factors, none of which have anything to do with English Colonial TRADITION.

But that's another topic.

Mike

[MacPhantom]

I still believe that while help from the United States definately helped Israel, the Jewish people have benifitted greatly from keeping their ancient TRADITIONS.

I would not dispute that keeping with tradition has been culturally beneficial to the people of Israel. I would, however, argue that in the absence of U.S. military and financial aid, all the tradition in the world would not have preserved the state of Israel.

I also believe, that at one time, Christians bennifited greatly from the observation of TRADITION. My own family was not allways non TRADITIONALIST. At one time, we were unyeilding in our observance of TRADITION, especialy on religious holidays. Everything "went south" for us when we started abandoning our TRADITIONS and our Lord.

I would not be so arrogant as to presume to know better than you the issues surrounding your family, or the cause of its struggles and turmoil. I can only admire your attempts to revert back to a better time, and offer you best wishes for success.

As for the United States's existance, I don't think abandoning TRADITION was the reason for it's existance. On the contrary, it's the establishment and observation of our national TRADITIONS that made the civilization we enjoy today possible.

I could not disagree more. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." For a group of people ruled by a monarch, there can be no greater break with tradition than that statement. Moreover, the greatest strength of our country, which has allowed it to survive through the past two centuries, is its flexibility, embodied in the Constitution, which allows us to update and modernize our laws as our thinking evolves.

Imagine how different things are today even from when the country was founded. Think of the traditions we had back then that we have thankfully abandoned. The tradition of slavery, which took another hundred years to abolish, or the inequality of women, who could not vote in our country until 1920. The civilization we enjoy today is a result of centuries of struggling against old ways of thinking, which preserved power for the white and wealthy.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not equating decorating a Christmas tree with slavery. I'm simply saying that what makes our country great isn't immovably holding to the way things were, but rather our ability to assimilate new ideas into our old ones, modify and update. In a word, to modernize. Such paradigm shifts always cause nostalgia for "the way things used to be", but they are absolutely essential to the survival of a society.

As for the American Revolution, that was brought about by many factors, none of which have anything to do with English Colonial TRADITION.

But that's another topic.

And a fascinating one at that!

[Andybev01]

...and this has to do with Halloween trees how, gentlemen?

I like to use Newsvine for my social commentary...

[MacPhantom]

Point well taken....

Which, by the way, is something that Halloween Trees have... POINTS. On the top of them. Especially if you put a Michael Myers ornament on it. Or a Freddy one. That one gives you four points.

[Andybev01]

Mac gets a gold star for noticing.