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Something I Need to Talk About
Hi Folks:
This is not a very plesent post, and if you are disturbed by cruelty to animals, I would suggest that you read no further, but an incident occure in my town a couple of days ago, that really disturbed me, and I thought it would help to talk about it with some of you guys on this forum.
A very disturbed, perhaps even sick young man who lives about a block from me, drives around in an old car, with a picture of a dog, cat, ad rabbit painted on the side door, and a score board underneath each picture. I thought it was a bit strange, but I dismissed it to typical "teenage" wierness, until it was found out that this individual really did use his car to kill animals. The particular incident that I am refering to happened this past Monday. This "person" was out driving around, when a kitten ran out into the road. He accelorated and ran him over, right infront of the 6 year old child who owned that kitten. The child watched in horror as his cat, and possibly his best friend was crushed like an insect right before his eyes. I understand that the child has started wetting his bed, has nightmares, and has been in a depression for the past several days.
The father of the teenage pervert who committed that attrocity is selling the car, but I don't know what further action is to be taken. One very frightening aspect to this whole thing, is that a lot of real life monsters, monsters like John Wayne Gacey, Geofry Dalmer, Ted Bundy and Dennis Rayder, all started out by tormenting animals before they "graduated" up to tormenting and killing humans. I very well may have a serial Killer in the making living right down the block from me. Sort of gives me pause to think. For years, I was never afraid to leave my house unattended. I've often left my car unlocked withoug worry, and the vast majority of my neighbors are decent, nice people who were just as apalled by this incident as I was, but I just don't know.
Mike
This is not a very plesent post, and if you are disturbed by cruelty to animals, I would suggest that you read no further, but an incident occure in my town a couple of days ago, that really disturbed me, and I thought it would help to talk about it with some of you guys on this forum.
A very disturbed, perhaps even sick young man who lives about a block from me, drives around in an old car, with a picture of a dog, cat, ad rabbit painted on the side door, and a score board underneath each picture. I thought it was a bit strange, but I dismissed it to typical "teenage" wierness, until it was found out that this individual really did use his car to kill animals. The particular incident that I am refering to happened this past Monday. This "person" was out driving around, when a kitten ran out into the road. He accelorated and ran him over, right infront of the 6 year old child who owned that kitten. The child watched in horror as his cat, and possibly his best friend was crushed like an insect right before his eyes. I understand that the child has started wetting his bed, has nightmares, and has been in a depression for the past several days.
The father of the teenage pervert who committed that attrocity is selling the car, but I don't know what further action is to be taken. One very frightening aspect to this whole thing, is that a lot of real life monsters, monsters like John Wayne Gacey, Geofry Dalmer, Ted Bundy and Dennis Rayder, all started out by tormenting animals before they "graduated" up to tormenting and killing humans. I very well may have a serial Killer in the making living right down the block from me. Sort of gives me pause to think. For years, I was never afraid to leave my house unattended. I've often left my car unlocked withoug worry, and the vast majority of my neighbors are decent, nice people who were just as apalled by this incident as I was, but I just don't know.
Mike
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Re: Something I Need to Talk About
Has anyone contacted the animal authorities? This kid needs to be caught by police, either animal cops or law enforcement, this is just sick.
Mike, if it hasnt already been done, contact your local police, tell them what he did and get an investigation going, have the police contact the neighbors and ask questions, I know here in Houston we have animal cops that will arrest and prosecute people like that.
I agree with you on the serial killer aspect but unfortunately I dont think anything can be done until he hurts a human with regards to that. Maybe the judge can force psychiatric sessions for him
Mike, if it hasnt already been done, contact your local police, tell them what he did and get an investigation going, have the police contact the neighbors and ask questions, I know here in Houston we have animal cops that will arrest and prosecute people like that.
I agree with you on the serial killer aspect but unfortunately I dont think anything can be done until he hurts a human with regards to that. Maybe the judge can force psychiatric sessions for him
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Re: Something I Need to Talk About
I think the police are already involved, and I'm sure that kid is going to be prosecuted. But somehow, that does little for that traunatised child, and I hope the judge does order psychological help, but as I said before, I just don't know what action is going to be taken. At least the little monster no longer has a car. I hope his license is also taken away so he can't borrow a car to continue his perverted shananagins.
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Maybe you can get the kid another kitten, maybe make it a gift from the neighborhood?
That might go a long way in helping the kid recover, of course ask his parents first...
That might go a long way in helping the kid recover, of course ask his parents first...
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I wouldn't call that "perverted", I'd call it "sadistic".
I liked Spookymufu's suggestions. That kid needs serious therapy... and I'm not talking about the poor kid whose kitten was run over... though he'll probably need therapy too.
I liked Spookymufu's suggestions. That kid needs serious therapy... and I'm not talking about the poor kid whose kitten was run over... though he'll probably need therapy too.
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Re: Something I Need to Talk About
That is sick!!!! The kid that was killing the animals will most likely be serial killer, they say that is one of the first signs. As for the little one I agree with Spooky, maybe get her a new kitten, she will also need therapy, hopefully the parent have already started it!! That is just sad!!!


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That sick little beast is lucky he doesn't live in my neighborhood.
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Re: Something I Need to Talk About
That's beyond sick. The authorities definintely need to do something about this monster. Killing animals is awful enough ... I agree with the other comments that he'll graduate to people since it is a known fact that serial killers started out murdering animals. He needs to be tortured ... run over slowly so he can feel the pain.
I feel awful for that poor little kitten, as well as all this creep's other animal victims, but this is going to stick with that little boy forever. If this child was two or three at least he might not remember it, but he's old enough where he will. My heart aches for him.
Please keep us updated on this situation. Hopefully justice will be served and he'll get what he deserves.
I feel awful for that poor little kitten, as well as all this creep's other animal victims, but this is going to stick with that little boy forever. If this child was two or three at least he might not remember it, but he's old enough where he will. My heart aches for him.
Please keep us updated on this situation. Hopefully justice will be served and he'll get what he deserves.
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Re: Something I Need to Talk About
Something else I'd like to add to my comment. Are sociopaths born defective or is their behavior a product of their environment, something they were exposed to as children? Believe me, I'm not trying to make this monster out to be a victim, but take people who abuse children for example. There's typically a pattern ... they were abused as kids, then they grow up committing the same horrible acts if they didn't get psychological help. Just wondering what makes an individual like this creep go out and kill animals for a sick thrill.
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It appears that the general consensus is that a person with a sociopathy or antisocial personality disorder has a genetic disorder of the brain - it is congenital. An abusive/violent upbringing or poor environment will not "make" them this way, although it might expose them at an earlier age. They cannot be rehabilitated because they are wired this way. Makes you wonder what is going on at the house where the neighbor boy from Hell lives.
It's a pretty dismal outlook for anyone plagued by this condition. Everyone around them will suffer the consequences of their behavior, including poor, helpless animals. One cannot befriend, console, rehabilitate, or trust a person like this.
Mike, stay strong friend and try not to worry. The best way to defend yourself and to put your mind at ease is to call your local authorities and express your personal concerns about what is going on in your neighborhood. Since cruelty to animals is punishable by law, this person may well be in for a trip to jail and/or be fined. If they can't do anything to him now, they will at least have a timeline - a history of what happened. This will serve them well in the future if this person is compelled to continue to wreak havoc in the place where you live.
I'm glad that you shared your worries with all of us here. It's not fun to live in fear about what might happen day to day, but again, my only advice would be to not remain silent about what has happened. Security lighting/motion sensors outside can be very reassuring, too
It has helped me feel safer in recent times.
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It's a pretty dismal outlook for anyone plagued by this condition. Everyone around them will suffer the consequences of their behavior, including poor, helpless animals. One cannot befriend, console, rehabilitate, or trust a person like this.
Mike, stay strong friend and try not to worry. The best way to defend yourself and to put your mind at ease is to call your local authorities and express your personal concerns about what is going on in your neighborhood. Since cruelty to animals is punishable by law, this person may well be in for a trip to jail and/or be fined. If they can't do anything to him now, they will at least have a timeline - a history of what happened. This will serve them well in the future if this person is compelled to continue to wreak havoc in the place where you live.
I'm glad that you shared your worries with all of us here. It's not fun to live in fear about what might happen day to day, but again, my only advice would be to not remain silent about what has happened. Security lighting/motion sensors outside can be very reassuring, too

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Re: Something I Need to Talk About
Hi Folks:
As is turns out, I couldn't just let it ride, so I did write a letter to the editor of the local news paper, who ran the story when it happened. I suggested that in addition to his father selling the car, the kid shold lose his license, and that's what happened more or less. The car is being sold at auction next Saturday, the money is going to be given to that little boy, who already befriended another kitten given to him by the locak police department, in conjunction with an animal shelter in Pontiac.
The monster who ran the cat over, from what I understand, had a perfectly normal upbringing, all though there's no telling what went on behind closed doors. There were no alegations of abuse or any other disfunction in the house, however. The animal killer has is due to appear in court on the 23rd of June, but it's likely that his drivers license will be suspended, and he will have to undergo counseling.
The little boy who saw his pet killed is also going to be put into counseling, but he's doing a little better. I saw him earlier this morning as he went off to school. He was a little down, but looked like he was prepared to face his day. I gave him a candy bar to put in his lunch box, sort of an early "Trick or Treat." His parents both know me, so it wasn't a problem. His new feline friend will be kept strictly as an indoor cat, so to prevent anythying like this from happening again.
I will keep you posted on the final dispositon of the monster who got his 'jollies' by attacking small animals with a 2000 pound car. I don't mean to dound vindictive, but I hope he moves out of my town. It's not just the cruelty of what he did, but the total creepieness of it. I'm actualy afraid of this kid, and what he might be capable of doing in the future.
Mike
As is turns out, I couldn't just let it ride, so I did write a letter to the editor of the local news paper, who ran the story when it happened. I suggested that in addition to his father selling the car, the kid shold lose his license, and that's what happened more or less. The car is being sold at auction next Saturday, the money is going to be given to that little boy, who already befriended another kitten given to him by the locak police department, in conjunction with an animal shelter in Pontiac.
The monster who ran the cat over, from what I understand, had a perfectly normal upbringing, all though there's no telling what went on behind closed doors. There were no alegations of abuse or any other disfunction in the house, however. The animal killer has is due to appear in court on the 23rd of June, but it's likely that his drivers license will be suspended, and he will have to undergo counseling.
The little boy who saw his pet killed is also going to be put into counseling, but he's doing a little better. I saw him earlier this morning as he went off to school. He was a little down, but looked like he was prepared to face his day. I gave him a candy bar to put in his lunch box, sort of an early "Trick or Treat." His parents both know me, so it wasn't a problem. His new feline friend will be kept strictly as an indoor cat, so to prevent anythying like this from happening again.
I will keep you posted on the final dispositon of the monster who got his 'jollies' by attacking small animals with a 2000 pound car. I don't mean to dound vindictive, but I hope he moves out of my town. It's not just the cruelty of what he did, but the total creepieness of it. I'm actualy afraid of this kid, and what he might be capable of doing in the future.
Mike
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good update.....I would love to hear what happens at his court hearing
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Thanks for the update, and I don't blame you at all for wanting to see him gone. They ought to lock him up.
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One thing for sure. A lot of his friends no longer will even speak to him, and he may never get to live this one down, unless he leaves. And I agree. He should do some time for what he did, but it's nice to know that he won't be driving again any time soon. I like to take walks at night or ride a bicycle for exercise. I would hate to be his first human victim if he decides to use his car as a serial killer weapon against people.
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I'm happy to hear the little boy is doing better, and that something is being done about that creep. Although it would be a blessing for you and your neighbors if he'd move away, never to be heard from or seen again, his new neighbors will have to deal with him. Even if he's no longer driving, a sicko like him will find other methods of harming animals. He definitely needs to serve time for this, whether in jail or a psychiatric institution.